{"page":"\u003clink rel=\"stylesheet\" href=\"https://lessonplanet.com/assets/packs/css/resources-572d6a42.css\" /\u003e\n\u003clink rel=\"stylesheet\" href=\"https://lessonplanet.com/assets/packs/css/lp_boclips_stylesheets-f4d0de30.css\" media=\"all\" /\u003e\n\u003cdiv data-title='A look at the Catalonia independence debate' data-url='/boclips/videos/5c54d62ad8eafeecae201755' data-video-url='/boclips/videos/5c54d62ad8eafeecae201755' id='bo_player_modal'\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='boclips-resource-page modal-dialog panel-container'\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='react-notifications-root'\u003e\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='rp-header'\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='rp-type'\u003e\n\u003ci aria-hidden='true' class='fai fa-regular fa-circle-play'\u003e\u003c/i\u003e\nVideo\n\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003ch1 class='rp-title' id='video-title'\u003e\nA look at the Catalonia independence debate\n\u003c/h1\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='rp-actions'\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='mr-1'\u003e\n\u003ca class=\"btn btn-success\" data-posthog-event=\"Signup: LP Signup Activity\" data-posthog-location=\"body_link_boclips\" data-remote=\"true\" href=\"/subscription/new\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e\u003cspan\u003eGet Free Access\u003c/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"\"\u003e for 10 Days\u003c/span\u003e\u003cspan\u003e!\u003c/span\u003e\u003c/span\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\n\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='rp-body'\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='rp-info'\u003e\n\u003cdiv aria-label='Hide resource details' class='rp-hide-info' role='button' tabindex='0'\u003e\u0026times;\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003ci aria-label='Expand resource details' class='rp-expand-info fai fa-solid fa-up-right-and-down-left-from-center' role='button' tabindex='0'\u003e\u003c/i\u003e\n\u003ci aria-label='Compress resource details' class='rp-compress-info fai fa-solid fa-down-left-and-up-right-to-center' role='button' tabindex='0'\u003e\u003c/i\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='rp-rating'\u003e\n\u003cspan class='resource-pool'\u003e\n\u003cspan class='pool-label'\u003ePublisher:\u003c/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class='pool-name'\u003e\n\u003cspan class='text'\u003e\u003ca data-publisher-id=\"30356011\" href=\"/search?publisher_ids%5B%5D=30356011\"\u003eCurated Video\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/span\u003e\n\u003c/span\u003e\n\u003c/span\u003e\n\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='rp-description'\u003e\n\u003cspan class='short-description'\u003eSpaniards living in Catalonia are divided over how a potential separation from Spain would impact on its economy.              Speaking on Wednesday in Barcelona, Carlos Rivadulla, president of Empresaris de Catalunya (Association of...\u003c/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class='full-description hide'\u003eSpaniards living in Catalonia are divided over how a potential separation from Spain would impact on its economy.\u003cbr/\u003e              Speaking on Wednesday in Barcelona, Carlos Rivadulla, president of Empresaris de Catalunya (Association of Catalan Businessmen) warned a break for independence could be \"economic turmoil.\"\u003cbr/\u003e              He drew a comparison with Quebec's two independence referendums, saying a separation may mean Catalonia could cease to be Spain's most prosperous region.\u003cbr/\u003e              \"Because of the referendum in 1980 and 1999 (meaning 1995) held in Quebec, Montreal ceased to be the main economic engine of the Canadian economy and it was transferred or moved to Toronto. This is a big risk we are facing here. We are now the most important region in GDP in Spain,\" said Rivadulla.\u003cbr/\u003e              Carles Altes however, a 53-year-old father of four who runs a bar in Barcelona, believes independence is the only way to keep the economic resources that belong to Catalans in the region.\u003cbr/\u003e              \"All the things that we build and do here are out of our hands. All the money goes outside to other Spanish regions, while here we have needs to be fulfilled and we can't invest in our own region, our country,\" said Altes.\u003cbr/\u003e              Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy demanded on Wednesday that the Catalan leader clarify whether he has declared independence, issuing a veiled threat that the central government could limit or rescind the region's autonomy if he has.\u003cbr/\u003e              Rajoy said the Catalan government's response would be crucial in deciding \"events over the coming days.\"\u003cbr/\u003e            \u003cbr/\u003e\u003cbr/\u003e              Barcelona - 11 October 2017\u003cbr/\u003e              1. Various of president of Association of Catalan Businessmen Carlos Rivadulla\u003cbr/\u003e              2. SOUNDBITE (English) Carlos Rivadulla, president of Empresaris de Catalunya (Association of Catalan Businessmen):\u003cbr/\u003e              \"Probably one of the main reasons why yesterday regional president (Carles Puigdemont) did not declare directly and forward independence was the pressure from the business corporate community. It was a big signal they sent last week when many of the biggest companies in Catalonia left the region because of the political instability. That caused real social panic. Panic because you see the biggest companies leaving the region and you wonder what is going to be left. Of course this was one of the main factors that really pushed them into stopping.\"\u003cbr/\u003e              3. Various of Rivadulla\u003cbr/\u003e              4. SOUNDBITE (English) Carlos Rivadulla, president of Empresaris de Catalunya (Association of Catalan Businessmen):\u003cbr/\u003e              \"If I can make a comparison between Quebec and Catalonia, I think what happened in Quebec and Montreal is a great lesson to be learned here. Just because of the referendums in 1980 and 1999 (meaning 1995) held in Quebec, Montreal ceased to be the first economic motor of the Canadian economy and was transferred or was moved to Toronto. This is a big risk we are facing here. We are right now, in terms of GDP, the main important and the most highest GDP in Spain. Of course it's a big risk if the companies that just left last week, over the last week, that approximately represent 25 percent of the Catalan GDP, it means Catalonia is going to drop a lot in terms of GDP and tax collection. It's going to be really a big economic turmoil.\"\u003cbr/\u003e              5. Rivadulla reading\u003cbr/\u003e              \u003cbr/\u003e              Barcelona - 11 October 2017\u003cbr/\u003e              6. Carles Altes, bar owner and pro-independence supporter, arriving at his bar near Sagrada Familia with 3-year-old daughter\u003cbr/\u003e              7. Altes preparing coffee for client\u003cbr/\u003e              8. SOUNDBITE (Spanish) Carles Altes, Barcelona bar owner and independence supporter: \u003cbr/\u003e              \"All the things that we build and do here are out of our hands. All the money goes outside to other Spanish regions, while here we have needs to be fulfilled and we can't invest in our own region, our country. This is simple. We are not disillusioned with the people, we are disillusioned with the politicians and administrators that took our money and used it. This produced a chain reaction that brought many people to join the independence movement.\"\u003cbr/\u003e              9. Various of Altes with client\u003cbr/\u003e              10. SOUNDBITE (Spanish) Carles Altes, Barcelona bar owner and independence supporter: \u003cbr/\u003e              \"We are talking about the fact that the president (Catalan president Carles Puigdemont) is risking 30 years of prison and the others between 15 and 20. They are also risking all their personal belongings and properties. I have always tried to be a pragmatic person and I never felt proud of the politicians that represented me. Today I feel proud, but of those who are from here.\"\u003cbr/\u003e              11. Altes setting up tables\u003cbr/\u003e              12. SOUNDBITE (Spanish) Carles Altes, Barcelona bar owner and independence supporter: \u003cbr/\u003e              \"They have tried to oppress us, to lie, blackmail us. The last thing I missed out was that we were attacked on October 1st. Those pictures went around the whole world. It is very different to watch on TV being hit with sticks by the police, when they hit you, and the old lady beside you or your 10-year-old daughter indiscriminately. This cannot be tolerated\".\u003cbr/\u003e              13. Altes working in his bar\u003cbr/\u003e              14. SOUNDBITE (Spanish) Carles Altes, Barcelona bar owner and independence supporter: \u003cbr/\u003e              \"They can do whatever they want but this country will rise again and will create new wealth. this country will be able to create a new industrial network where people will be proud to come and work. Our country is a welcoming one, where we want people to come and work. We have always welcomed with open arms all the people who wanted to come to work here\".\u003cbr/\u003e              15. Antes making coffee\u003cbr/\u003e              16. Tilt-down from pro-independence flags hanging from balconies to Altes bar\u003cbr/\u003e              17. Catalan flags\u003cbr/\u003e              18. 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