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Set-up of Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili2. SOUNDBITE (English) Mikhail Saakashvili, Georgian President:\"If NATO sends a sign of weakness, and clearly this invasion was intended to deter, to scare NATO away, if NATO gets scared...\u003c/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class='full-description hide'\u003e1. Set-up of Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili\u003cbr/\u003e2. SOUNDBITE (English) Mikhail Saakashvili, Georgian President:\u003cbr/\u003e\"If NATO sends a sign of weakness, and clearly this invasion was intended to deter, to scare NATO away, if NATO gets scared away, then this will be a never-ending story. I don't believe Georgia should become a point of contention, or conflict between NATO and Russia in some way. What I believe in is that NATO should be able to stand up for its principles, no matter who is trying to challenge those principles. It should not be directed against Russia, but it should clearly be directed for the sake of principles for NATO and for the future of the North Atlantic (Treaty) Organisation.\"\u003cbr/\u003e3. Cutaway \u003cbr/\u003e4. SOUNDBITE (English) Mikhail Saakashvili, Georgian President:\u003cbr/\u003e\"Russia's aggressiveness was directed at, you know, shaking the foundations of the alliance and their decision making process. And is NATO going to compromise on those basic issues? Well, will this compromise be just limited to Georgia or will there be a never-ending story to apply toward other regions? Will, you know, extreme nationalistic elements in Russia see this as a major victory, and so try to push for more victories on their side? These are the questions to be asked.\"\u003cbr/\u003e5. Cutaway \u003cbr/\u003e6. SOUNDBITE (English) Mikhail Saakashvili, Georgian President:\u003cbr/\u003e\"People are saying, 'look Georgia has conflicts, so maybe Georgia cannot be accepted, but maybe we can accept Ukraine.' Because they still don't have the conflict. But if you put it this way, you automatically are going to get conflict in Ukraine. That's how the other side perceives this kind of open democratic debate.\"\u003cbr/\u003e7. Cutaway\u003cbr/\u003e8. SOUNDBITE (English) Mikhail Saakashvili, Georgian President:\u003cbr/\u003e\"Georgian army has basically kept most of its resources intact, and we've kept 95 percent of all our military resource intact. We have now more than enough weapons and we have now more than enough ammunition. And we don't expect to get anything from the US, we haven't got anything recently from the US and we will not be getting any large scale hardware, or kind of any military material assistance from the US. This is very clear. We don't need to.\"\u003cbr/\u003e9. Cutaway \u003cbr/\u003e10. SOUNDBITE (English) Mikhail Saakashvili, Georgian President:\u003cbr/\u003e\"No matter what kind of theoretical assistance we could have got from anybody, there is no way Georgia can fight wars with Russia, and this is something which should be made very clear. All this talk about Americans re-arming Georgia, or some others coming to re-arming Georgia has just been part of the propaganda.\"\u003cbr/\u003e11. Cutaway \u003cbr/\u003e12. SOUNDBITE (English) Mikhail Saakashvili, Georgian President:\u003cbr/\u003e\"No occupation, invasion of this scale and so unjustified from another country, has succeeded in the long run, even in the last century. And you know, and in the 21st, it will be very, very short-term, but you know, short-term might mean months, might mean years. But I think it's still short term.\"\u003cbr/\u003e13. Wide of Saakashvili\u003cbr/\u003eGeorgian President Mikhail Saakashvili urged NATO on Thursday not to push his country away in the wake of Moscow's military campaign, warning that showing weakness would cause a \"never-ending story\" of Russian aggression.\u003cbr/\u003eIn an interview with The Associated Press before a visit by NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation) leaders next week, Saakashvili said Russia invaded Georgia to keep the ex-Soviet republic out of the Western alliance.\u003cbr/\u003e\"If NATO sends a sign of weakness, and clearly this invasion was intended to deter, to scare NATO away, if NATO gets scared away, then this will be a never-ending story,\" Saakashvili said.\u003cbr/\u003eSaakashvili has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership for Georgia. \u003cbr/\u003eThe alliance has promised Georgia will eventually join, and a review of its request for a road map to membership is scheduled for December.\u003cbr/\u003eSaakashvili suggested keeping Georgia out of NATO because of increasing Russian control over South Ossetia and another separatist region, Abkhazia, would be precisely the result the Kremlin intended and a recipe for forceful intervention elsewhere.\u003cbr/\u003e\"People are saying, 'look Georgia has conflicts, so maybe Georgia cannot be accepted, but maybe we can accept Ukraine.' But if you put it this way, you automatically are going to get conflict in Ukraine,\" he said.\u003cbr/\u003eSaakashvili said NATO nations must stand together and expressed confidence that Russia's use of what Western governments condemned as disproportionate force had strengthened support from some alliance members for Georgian membership.\u003cbr/\u003eHe said Russia's actions were aimed at \"shaking the foundations of the alliance and their decision-making process. And is NATO going to compromise on these basic issues? Well, will this compromise be just limited to Georgia or will there be a never-ending story to apply toward other regions?\"\u003cbr/\u003eThe Kremlin has accused the United States encouraging Saakashvili to make war against separatist South Ossetia and of moving to rebuild Georgia's military following the fighting. \u003cbr/\u003eSaakashvili said he is committed to peaceful solutions of Georgia's territorial disputes and is not seeking robust military aid from the United States.\u003cbr/\u003e\"We don't expect to get anything from the US, we haven't got anything recently from the US and we will not be getting any large-scale hardware or military materiel assistance from the US,\" he said. \u003cbr/\u003e\"All this talk about Americans rearming Georgia or others coming in and rearming Georgia has been just part of the propaganda,\" he added.\u003cbr/\u003eThe US Defence Department said on Tuesday that it would send an assessment team to Georgia this week to help determine its needs as a way of showing US support for its security.\u003cbr/\u003eHe denied Russian claims that US military aid, which included training Georgian forces, was instrumental in emboldening Georgia to try to retake South Ossetia by force on August 7.\u003cbr/\u003e\"No matter what kind of theoretical assistance we could have got from anybody, there is no way Georgia can fight wars with Russia,\" he said.\u003cbr/\u003eIn Moscow on Thursday, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin aggressively defended the invasion, saying Russia had to act when Georgia attacked South Ossetia. \u003cbr/\u003eRussian forces repelled the offensive and drove deep into Georgia before withdrawing most of the troops and tanks late last month following a cease-fire deal.\u003cbr/\u003eRussia has pledged to withdraw its remaining forces still positioned outside Abkhazia and South Ossetia within a month, but says it will keep thousands of troops in the separatist regions themselves for the foreseeable future. \u003cbr/\u003eIt has also recognised them as independent nations, deepening the confrontation with Georgia and the West.\u003cbr/\u003eSaakashvili contends that Georgia was acting in self-defence amid increasing Russian support for the separatists and indications of imminent aggression.\u003cbr/\u003eHe reiterated his promise that Georgia will gain control of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, but said it would rely on legal mechanisms and pressure from the international community to do so.\u003cbr/\u003e\"No occupation on this scale ... has succeeded in the long run,\" Saakashvili said. \u003cbr/\u003eHe suggested it could be months or years before the Russians are out and Georgia is united.\u003cbr/\u003e\u003c/span\u003e\n\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class='action-container flex justify-between'\u003e\n\u003cbutton aria-expanded='false' aria-label='Read more description' class='rp-full-description' type='button'\u003e\n\u003ci class='fai fa-solid 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