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Frederik Willem de Klerk, former president of South Africa, arriving for news conference2. Mid of journalists3. Pan from cameramen to De Klerk4. SOUNDBITE: (English) Frederik Willem de Klerk, former South African president:\"Baroness...\u003c/span\u003e\n\u003cspan class='full-description hide'\u003e1. Frederik Willem de Klerk, former president of South Africa, arriving for news conference\u003cbr/\u003e2. Mid of journalists\u003cbr/\u003e3. Pan from cameramen to De Klerk\u003cbr/\u003e4. SOUNDBITE: (English) Frederik Willem de Klerk, former South African president:\u003cbr/\u003e\"Baroness Thatcher played a constructive role in the promotion of evolutionary change in South Africa throughout her period as Prime Minister. She was a steadfast critic of apartheid and consistantly urged consecutive South African governments to release Nelson Mandela and to embark on fundamental constitutional change. This image, which some people like to spread, that she was a supporter of apartheid, is definitely a skewed image.\"\u003cbr/\u003e5. Mid of journalists\u003cbr/\u003e6. SOUNDBITE: (English) Frederik Willem de Klerk, former South African president:\u003cbr/\u003e\"I thing internationally her legacy was that she was a honest politician who stood up for what she believed in, that she had great integrity, that she was a purposeful leader and whether you liked her or not, she made a difference.\"\u003cbr/\u003e7. Close of journalist looking at his smartphone\u003cbr/\u003e8. SOUNDBITE: (English) Frederik Willem de Klerk, former South African president:\u003cbr/\u003e\"As far as Mr Mandela is concerned, we became good friends but at the moment I am honouring his request and his family's request that he wants to be with them and he doesn't want public exposure. So, I'm not bothering him. He is very frail.\"\u003cbr/\u003e9. Close of journalist taking notes\u003cbr/\u003e10. SOUNDBITE: (English) Frederik Willem de Klerk, former South African president:\u003cbr/\u003e\"He's very frail but he is, the medical bulletins which have been issued are true. There are no lies being told about his health, that is my impression, and it accords with information I get through other channels. But he is very old, he has memory problems as has been said publicly also by government spokepersons. But, generally speaking, he is much better than he has been for some time, the procedure they did on him was a success, he's back home and all of us hope and pray that he will be spared for much longer.\"\u003cbr/\u003e11. Close of camera\u003cbr/\u003e12. De Klerk leaving news conference\u003cbr/\u003eFrederik Willem de Klerk, the last apartheid-era president who negotiated a power transition with Nelson Mandela and later shared a Nobel Peace Prize with him, said that Margaret Thatcher played a constructive role in promoting change in South Africa throughout her period as Prime Minister.\u003cbr/\u003eSpeaking to journalists in London ahead of the funeral of the former British Prime Minister, de Klerk said that Thatcher was a steadfast critic of apartheid and constantly urged the South African government to release Mandela.\u003cbr/\u003e\"This image, which some people like to spread, that she was a supporter of apartheid, is definitely a skewed image,\" he said.\u003cbr/\u003eDe Klerk was the seventh and last State President of apartheid-era South Africa, serving from September 1989 to May 1994.\u003cbr/\u003eNineteen years after the end of apartheid, South Africans are still passionately divided over whether Margaret Thatcher helped or hindered the cruel system of white rule and prolonged the incarceration of Nelson Mandela.\u003cbr/\u003eThe heated discussions triggered by Thatcher's death show how influential South Africans believe she was on the fate of the last bastion of white-minority rule in Africa.\u003cbr/\u003eThatcher's spokesman said in 1987 that anyone who thought the ANC, then the leading anti-apartheid movement in South Africa, would govern South Africa was \"living in cloud cuckoo-land.\"\u003cbr/\u003eBut others argue that Thatcher was strongly opposed to apartheid and racism and helped influence the white government to free Mandela.\u003cbr/\u003eMandela spent 27 years in prison during the period of white racist rule that ended with his election to the presidency in a democratic vote in 1994.\u003cbr/\u003eDe Klerk also talked about the health condition of Nelson Mandela, saying he was \"very frail\".\u003cbr/\u003eHe added that there was no lies being told about Mandela's health condition, that 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